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law enforcement officer was, sean collier was killed on tuesday night and that murder has not been charged yet at all and we should see the state do more work on that front in the coming days and weeks, we expect. >> as you talk about going forward in all this what do we know of how the process progresses from here? there was that legal hearing on monday. what happens next? >> that was just the very beginning, a complaint was filed. he still will have to appear in court, be indicted and there is a hearing set for may 30th at 10:00 a.m. that the judge mentioned in this hearing monday morning. >> before i let you go, erin what do we know about legal defense? did he have legal representation in that hospital room? >> reporter: i have the transcript of the court hearing here there is controversy on friday and over the weekend about him not being mirandized. they went through it twice today and offered the use of an attorney and the one word he spoke was no when asked if he could afford an attorney and he was presented with defense attorneys today. >>> we want to bring you a look at the case ag
law enforcement officer was, sean collier was killed on tuesday night and that murder has not been charged yet at all and we should see the state do more work on that front in the coming days and weeks, we expect. >> as you talk about going forward in all this what do we know of how the process progresses from here? there was that legal hearing on monday. what happens next? >> that was just the very beginning, a complaint was filed. he still will have to appear in court, be indicted...
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whether it would be a proper under the law, is an open question. they couldn't use any of the material that they illicited from him, but maybe they don't need it. they may also reindict him. >> well, they wouldn't use the inform in the criminal case against him but could use it to get to a wider group. >> oh no question. can you use it against anybody else. you only can't use it against this defendant. and they may be able to obtain such information. and if so, they might reindict him under the terrorist statute. it is a little odd that everybody regards this guy as a terrorist except the united states government. which has indicted him under ordinary murder statute that carries the death penalty. but often we see a second indictment following the first indictment, if more information comes forward. once he get's a lawyer and he says to his lawyer, by the way, i lied to the authorities. i really know a lot more, the lawyer might say, that's your best ammunition. why don't we now tell the federal government we really have more information and try to
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but law enforcement sources say they have a number of active leads. they've issued a be on the lookout bulletin for someone described as a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt. that person could be a foreign national with an accent. sources say he tried to gain access to a restricted area before the blast. police are also looking for a penske truck that tried to gain access to a restricted area. a federal law enforcement official told cnn that both bombs were small. and initial tests show no c-4 or other high-grade explosive material. suggesting the packages used in the attack were code devices. still >> there's a certain level of sophistication. having made these bombs before, it's not easy. you just can't get it on the internet, make two of these bombs go off fairly closely together. so somebody had some experience. somebody practiced. >> reporter: sourcesel cnn that one, possiy two, unexploded devices also were found. potential treasure troves of clues about who may have made the bombs. authorities still have no i
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and so all of these are sort of tells that law enforcement is looking at. and as i said, there are probably a handful of pictures that have definitely reached the highest levels that are of the most interest, and that means they want to find these individuals, piers. >>s wi >> also, two terrorism experts about what kind of chatter there may be on jihadi websites. and interestingly, there isn't much. is that right? >> reporter: yeah. that's what's so surprising about this. and this is what has terrorism experts a little confused as to what the motive is of this. you know, usually when there is an event that's connected to a transnational, somebody from overse overseas, they will look for certain events. well, the events that were associated with this particular day had nothing to do with any sort of transnational incident. you know, on 9/11, everybody sort of gets worried that there is going to be another attack. sort of anniversary attack. but not the case. the forums have been especially quiet. there is not the usual chatter that people are not claiming cr
and so all of these are sort of tells that law enforcement is looking at. and as i said, there are probably a handful of pictures that have definitely reached the highest levels that are of the most interest, and that means they want to find these individuals, piers. >>s wi >> also, two terrorism experts about what kind of chatter there may be on jihadi websites. and interestingly, there isn't much. is that right? >> reporter: yeah. that's what's so surprising about this. and...
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two of the people were his own relatives, his sister and brother-in-law he pulled out. we heard from him and we spoke to a woman named vanessa williams. she gave us a great picture, a picture of the huge cloud that went up after the blast. she was in the neighborhood when she took that picture, the windows were getting blown out of her car and her cars were being flattened by this blast. her son -- she's divorced and her son was staying with her husband at the time. she was rushing toward their home. the house had exploded. the son and ex-husband were close by. they were not hurt but her ex-husband jumped on her 8-year-old son to save him. i caught up with her and she was telling me how she feared the worse. >> i can hear the explosion. i'll never forget it. i will never forget pulling up to my son's house and thinking he was dead and my ex-husband was dead. that's very scary. >> reporter: how are you feeling now? >> he's alive. but there are people that aren't. so god be with them. >> reporter: so, team are still combing through the wreckage tonight trying to find surv
two of the people were his own relatives, his sister and brother-in-law he pulled out. we heard from him and we spoke to a woman named vanessa williams. she gave us a great picture, a picture of the huge cloud that went up after the blast. she was in the neighborhood when she took that picture, the windows were getting blown out of her car and her cars were being flattened by this blast. her son -- she's divorced and her son was staying with her husband at the time. she was rushing toward their...
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we saw an ambulance arrive, and it was escorted by ten police officers and other law enforcement seen there as well, and what is the situation right now? >> reporter: there is a large security presence, not only at this hospital but at hospitals around the area there was security. we were at mass general hospital, and there was lots of security around. there are five security officers outside the hospital here, and there are two inside the hospital, and there may be more, we just don't know. these officers have been here throughout the night. they will likely continue to be here as long as the suspect is here being treated. >> to that, this guy would have to be the most wanted man in america right now. how will the hospital deal with his presence? it sounds as if he is in serious condition and he is undergoing surgery and will be there for a while. what arrangements has the hospital put in place to deal with this? >> reporter: that's a really good question. this is a man that authorities are calling a terrorists who was intent on killing people, so you can imagine the feelings of conc
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if they didn't do that, then they have no excuse based on the civil liberties of law. a lot of conflict between the people and the police. a lot of bombings. two, three, four, a month. all the time that he was back. he was in the middle of all this and we don't know enough information about what he was up to. who he was talking to. we don't know anything. the fbi had this guy right in their sights. >> well, time and time again when we look at terrorist subjects radicalized in the west one of the common features is the overseas travel. they may go overseas seeking sanction. they may go overseas for training. they may go overseas because they want to help the fighters. when the individuals come back from pakistan, afghanistan, yemen, somalia, chechnya, russia, that's a point that deserves more scrutiny, to find out what did the individuals do overseas. otherwise you may have a boston event. times square bombing. 2010. individual goes to pakistan. lost track on the radar. comes back to times square in a vehicle to deliver an attack. >> it's much easier to do it if he's no
if they didn't do that, then they have no excuse based on the civil liberties of law. a lot of conflict between the people and the police. a lot of bombings. two, three, four, a month. all the time that he was back. he was in the middle of all this and we don't know enough information about what he was up to. who he was talking to. we don't know anything. the fbi had this guy right in their sights. >> well, time and time again when we look at terrorist subjects radicalized in the west one...
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if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the men pictured here, please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays, that's 1-800-call-fbi. all calls will be kept confidential. we have also established a website for tips that directly relates to the bombing. please contact us at boston marathon tips.fbi.gov. again, that website is boston marathon tips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on our website fbi.gov. it is important to emphasize the images from monday are indelible and the horror of that day will remain with us forever. this further underscores our obligation to investigate this crime judiciously in order to bring those responsible to justice. the victims and survivors deserve nothing less. as to monday's victims, the fbi's committed to ensuring victims receive the rights they are entitled to and the assistance they need to cope with the crimes. treating victims with respect and providing them with assistance, benefits, and help, and assistance will better our cases. our re
if you see these men, contact law enforcement. if you know anything about the bombings or the men pictured here, please call the telephone listed on the photo arrays, that's 1-800-call-fbi. all calls will be kept confidential. we have also established a website for tips that directly relates to the bombing. please contact us at boston marathon tips.fbi.gov. again, that website is boston marathon tips.fbi.gov. the photos can be viewed on our website fbi.gov. it is important to emphasize the...
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the state, local, federal law enforcement. and they presumably are, the fbi is the lead organization in charge of this investigation. but clearly there is some confusion amongst some of these sources about what's going on, even though the governor seemed to suggest that there wasn't. >> i think in the sense of cooperating with the investigation, sharing information, making sure if one agency comes into possession of some information, a photograph, maybe forensics, there's no question at all there's been very good cooperation. you've got federal officials, state officials and that's not always the case. there's no indication of any command and control issues here at all. there has certainly been consrnation about leaks. we've been told by srces about a possible arrest being made. operation under way leading to an arrest, specific identification of the suspect. i do know from following back on sources there's some consternation, and the agencies talking about who's leaking, why would they be leaking, let's pull back. the governo
the state, local, federal law enforcement. and they presumably are, the fbi is the lead organization in charge of this investigation. but clearly there is some confusion amongst some of these sources about what's going on, even though the governor seemed to suggest that there wasn't. >> i think in the sense of cooperating with the investigation, sharing information, making sure if one agency comes into possession of some information, a photograph, maybe forensics, there's no question at...
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call somebody, don't take the law into your own hands. they are armed, they're dangerous and you got to treat them that way. >> chris, you worked with the fbi at a high level. when they release pictures and video like this, is it safe to assume that all their ducks are in a row in the sense of clearly once this goes public, these two characters will know that they're on to them, will by then they have cleared everything with the ports and the airports and so on so if they try and make a run for it to get out of the country, they're ready for them? >> piers, this is the reason that we didn't hear this before now, that premature leak yesterday may have impacted the investigation as they say, with unintended consequences. you don't always reach this point of an investigation where you reach out directly to the public, but i can guarantee you that their investigative options have increased now and the bad guys' options have decreased. >> you were the head of the fbi when olympic bomber eric rudolph was arrested. you've been in the position th
call somebody, don't take the law into your own hands. they are armed, they're dangerous and you got to treat them that way. >> chris, you worked with the fbi at a high level. when they release pictures and video like this, is it safe to assume that all their ducks are in a row in the sense of clearly once this goes public, these two characters will know that they're on to them, will by then they have cleared everything with the ports and the airports and so on so if they try and make a...
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one law enforcement official pointed me towards a line that runs between new york city and toronto. it runs actually from buffalo, new york. i'm told that the plan was to detonate explosives in canada. and derail -- and derail the train. and my law enforcement source said there had been some reports that they wanted to wage a spectacular attack, blow up a bridge. he said no. he said what they were doing was to target the train on the tressels, and actually what they wanted to do was derail the train and cause maximum injury to the people on it. >> so two quick follow-ups with you, gloria. first, whether we look at u.s. response here of what happened in boston, canada, an example of it working well, right? coordinated investigation, caught the plot early, and they have been watching it for over a year, haddize izeyes on the si, right? >> they had eyes on the situational they had informants in the community that they believed would be lucrative for them, and that certainly worked out. i think they -- it is clear to me that they worked in concert with united states law enforcement and
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federal law enforcement sources tell cnn the devices were inside pressure cookers and they believe bbs and nails were part of the explosives. important to know that so far nobody has claimed responsibility. the toll of injured up to 183, three more have died, including 8-year-old martin richard, and krystle campbell. >>> president obama will travel to boston on thursday. >>> we have the remains of a pressure cooker, a shredded black backpack and some kind of ball bearings or metal pellets. what can we read into this at this stage? >> you are looking at what they have in this investigation, which is the bombs themselves. apparently two very similar if not twin bombs placed in black nylon bags that they are recreating as much as they can. at quantico. the fbi lab. it is hal, who did this and why that they really do not have any leads on. you are looking at forensic evidence, it will be very important when they catch this person. but in terms of trying to find that person, i think it will be more difficult as they recreate the bombs. they will have to figure out where some of this materia
federal law enforcement sources tell cnn the devices were inside pressure cookers and they believe bbs and nails were part of the explosives. important to know that so far nobody has claimed responsibility. the toll of injured up to 183, three more have died, including 8-year-old martin richard, and krystle campbell. >>> president obama will travel to boston on thursday. >>> we have the remains of a pressure cooker, a shredded black backpack and some kind of ball bearings or...
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law enforcement officials are cautioning this is what he's saying initially. they still need to check out all the facts and make sure what he is saying is accurate. what he's saying is first of all, this was not planned. the terrorist attack was not planned in conjunction with any foreign terrorist group. second, that they were radicalized online. that there was a video component to their being radicalized, that they were self-radicalized. there was not necessarily any internet communication. but they learned what they learned in terms of ideology, and other things, from the internet. the older brother, according to dzhokhar, tamerlan tsarnaev, was the driving force. of course we'd expect him to say something like that. but according to all accounts that was their relationship anyway. and from this initial impression, the initial interviews, investigators believe that these individuals, at least according to dzhokhar were self-starters, self-radicalized, their motivation was that of a jihadist. they were driven by the jihadist thought, the political and religi
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family of the yngest v eyounges celebrating the work of law enforcement officer. his family released this statement, "our family applauds the entire law enforcement community for a job well done and trust that our justice system will now do its job. our community is once again safe from these two men. none of this will bring our beloved martin back or reverse the injuries these men inflicted on our family and nearly 200 others. we continue to pray for healing and for comfort on the long road that lies ahead for every victim and their loved ones." >>> crystal campbell was killed just weeks before her 30th birthday. her brother says he's glad the manhunt is over but the suspect's capture does not change the painful fact that his vivacious sister is gone forever. william campbell iii told "the boston globe" this -- i am happy that nobody else is going to get hurt by these guys but it is not going to bring her back." >>> the third person killed in the bombings, lindsey lu, had come to boston just last fall. friends say they was kind and relished the opportunity to com
family of the yngest v eyounges celebrating the work of law enforcement officer. his family released this statement, "our family applauds the entire law enforcement community for a job well done and trust that our justice system will now do its job. our community is once again safe from these two men. none of this will bring our beloved martin back or reverse the injuries these men inflicted on our family and nearly 200 others. we continue to pray for healing and for comfort on the long...
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right now law enforcement working. brooke, we'll get back to you. you know, erin, as we watch what's going on, we're here in boston. it's a pretty nerve racking situation. >> it is a nerve racking situation and they do believe the suspect's armed and dangerous and there could have been pipe bombs left around which creates a real sense of fear. >> which is why they're doing these controlled explosions. just to be precise what that means is experts go in there and detonate these bombs to make sure they don't kill anyone. >> that's right. they want to make sure there are no other casualties in the horror that's gone on the past few days. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back with the live coverage of the breaking news manhunt here in boston. ♪ [ jen garner ] what skincare brand is so effective... so trusted... so clinically proven dermatologists recommend it twice as much as any other brand? neutrogena®. recommended by dermatologists 2 times more than any other brand. now that's beautiful. neutrogena®. ♪ neutrogena®. before i do any p
right now law enforcement working. brooke, we'll get back to you. you know, erin, as we watch what's going on, we're here in boston. it's a pretty nerve racking situation. >> it is a nerve racking situation and they do believe the suspect's armed and dangerous and there could have been pipe bombs left around which creates a real sense of fear. >> which is why they're doing these controlled explosions. just to be precise what that means is experts go in there and detonate these bombs...
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the rule of law requires limitations and torture is something that should never been exceeded. as you know, i have famously or infamously called for torture warrants because i believe that torture would occur in extreme ticking bomb cases and i want accountability and visibility, but i don't want torture. >> alan dershowitz, thank you very much indeed. >>> he's the top cop who oversaw the final moments of the week-long nightmare in and around boston. the manhunt that pitted hundreds of police officers against the armed and extremely dangerous tsarnaev brothers. joining me is watertown police chief. chief, thank you first of all for what you and your officers did in the last week because it really was heroic police work. i'm so glad for you that it ended finally with the capture of these two criminals. in terms of the way it went on for you as the week went on, were there moments when you felt we're not going to catch this guy? >> well, we were right at it right from the beginning with our officers there at 12:25 a.m. in the back street of watertown. we didn't have much to think
the rule of law requires limitations and torture is something that should never been exceeded. as you know, i have famously or infamously called for torture warrants because i believe that torture would occur in extreme ticking bomb cases and i want accountability and visibility, but i don't want torture. >> alan dershowitz, thank you very much indeed. >>> he's the top cop who oversaw the final moments of the week-long nightmare in and around boston. the manhunt that pitted...
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law the united states citizens cannot be trialed -- tried rather in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11 we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. the effective use of the criminal justice system has resulted in the interrogation, conviction and detention of both u.s. citizens and not citizens for acts of terrorism committed inside the united states and around the world. the system has repeatedly proven that it can successfully handle the threat we continue to face. there are a number of examples of this. high profile. the times square bomber, faisal shahzad pleaded guilty and sentenced to life in prison. abdul the so-called underwear bomber was sentenced to life in prison. somali national
law the united states citizens cannot be trialed -- tried rather in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11 we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. the effective use of the criminal justice system has resulted in the interrogation, conviction and detention of both u.s. citizens and not citizens for acts of terrorism committed inside the united states and around the world. the system has repeatedly proven that it can...
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there is a federal terrorism law. and the use of explosive devices in the course of terrorism is not only a federal crime, it is a federal crime that potentially carries the death penalty. >> when you say that, is there not also -- forgive me for not knowing the wording of the federal statute, but exploding a device in a public place causing death is also something that carries the death penalty. >> that's right. >> so video perhaps -- >> that's right. >> okay. >> remember, we are such an early stage of this process. you know, we are all taking it as a given that the fbi and other law enforcement have identified the two brothers as the people who set off the bomb. we don't know what the evidence is of that. we haven't seen evidence -- we haven't seen them setting off the bomb. we haven't seen them admitting it. now, supposedly one or both of them admitted it to the carja carjacking victim, but i think we just need to slow down a little bit and say, you know, what is the proof here. >> sure. >> i assume the government
there is a federal terrorism law. and the use of explosive devices in the course of terrorism is not only a federal crime, it is a federal crime that potentially carries the death penalty. >> when you say that, is there not also -- forgive me for not knowing the wording of the federal statute, but exploding a device in a public place causing death is also something that carries the death penalty. >> that's right. >> so video perhaps -- >> that's right. >> okay....
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>> law enforcement officials now saying that they found debris on the roof tops nearby. they found some debris from the bombs embedded in buildings nearby. tom fuentes said it carries about a 7,000 feet a second force. that gives you an idea of the scope. debris on rooftops nearby. some of these buildings are tall. >> getting new information on a letter sent to the united states senate that has tested positive for the poison ricin. stand by. [ male announcer ] the first look is only the beginning. ♪ ♪ this is a stunning work of technology. ♪ this is the 2013 lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. and the first-ever es hybrid. we are outta here! finding you the perfect place. hotels.com. at a hertz expressrent kiosk, you can rent a car without a reservation... and without a line. now that's a fast car. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. and didn't know where to start. used a contractor before at angie's list, you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare written by people just like y
>> law enforcement officials now saying that they found debris on the roof tops nearby. they found some debris from the bombs embedded in buildings nearby. tom fuentes said it carries about a 7,000 feet a second force. that gives you an idea of the scope. debris on rooftops nearby. some of these buildings are tall. >> getting new information on a letter sent to the united states senate that has tested positive for the poison ricin. stand by. [ male announcer ] the first look is only...
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citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing any parallels between this case and that which you defended? >> well, there's certainly some parallels because you have the explosions and this wasn't -- fortunately, wasn't as devastating as the oklahoma city bombing was. but the trial is going to be as difficult, i believe, as the oklahoma city bombing. when you have to get in and get experts and bombing experts and people to help you learn how to blow up a bomb, build a bomb and clean up a bomb, that takes an extensive amount of time and a lot of expertise. whoever ends up defending this man is going to
citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing...
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>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow that way. i don't think this is any way should be relegated -- not relegated, but elevated to something on enemy combatant status. this is a crime against the people of the united states. it can be handled that way. i have every confidence in the justice department and state authorities in massachusetts to do that. >> douglas jones, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> as boston tries to return to normal, what role will sports play? the sox and bruins are about to play here today. fans are honoring the city in a very special way. back
>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow...
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it seems likely, though not certain, according to law enforcement, that a timer was used. we'll get to all of that in a moment. i want to begin with the reality, for many families that they are dealing with right now. for some, it will be intense therapy, adjusting to a life with fewer limbs. we're seeing a lot of lower limb amputations. today, doctors spoke of being forced to finish the job of the bombs, amputating people's legs to save their lives. the latest at this hour, three people known dead. at least 174 injured, including 23 people who are critically injured. the stories of loss and pain, we keep learning new details. one runner's camera was rolling as she approached the finish line. take a look. as loud as that blast was, it was into silence that another witness felt the full impact of what she survived. >> i got home last night, at about 11:00, and started to break down because i had been holding it in all day, i had been trying to remain composed, but by the time i was trying to fall asleep it was all hitting me, this is really real and waking up this morning a
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he will be in law enforcement custody. there are a lot of ways to entice people to speak, there are a lot of ways to -- if you have an individual, to determine who he has been with or other -- >> where that person lives, what their neighbors have seen, if he come and went from the apartment, phone records. >> this was not a suicide bomber, right? so this is a person with a lot of motives that might be able to be used by good law enforcement to get other information out. this is not someone who wanted to die for the cause. that means there is a weak link there. >> it is very possible that if this was done with some sort of political agenda, some sort of desire to make a statement, that person may very well may want to continue to make a statement using their own words. >> they may have that -- a lot of people believe that they are part of an organization of which that organization has no idea that they're a part, a lot of people have delusions, a lot of crazy people, so if we learn that they believe -- >> juliette has been
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they certainly will release that videotape in a court of law. they've described it in extensive detail. that's going to be powerful, powerful evidence in a potential trial. tom, thanks very much. let's recap quickly the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, now facing federal charges, among them use gd and conspiring to 0 use a weapon of mass destruction rulgting in death. let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, what happens next? >> what happens next is that the case will be presented to a grand jury. prosecutors will begin presenting evidence, leading to an indictment. i think the process is going to slow down a great deal. remember, this crime was only a week ago. the government is going to have to assemble a lot of scientific evidence trying to tie material that could be connected to the defendant, to the bomb itself. this is complicated stuff. i think it's going to be months in the grand jury until a final indictment is ready to be presented probably. and then at that point the case will be presented to a trial judg
they certainly will release that videotape in a court of law. they've described it in extensive detail. that's going to be powerful, powerful evidence in a potential trial. tom, thanks very much. let's recap quickly the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, now facing federal charges, among them use gd and conspiring to 0 use a weapon of mass destruction rulgting in death. let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, what happens next? >> what happens next is that the...
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law enforcement went door to door. after the standoff, we spoke to neighbors. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through. >> they came in, searched the living room area, the dining room. went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen ar area. >> they search cabinets and things like that. >> >> no, no cabinets or anything like that, but they went through the bedrooms, closet doors and made their way to the back door. >> he showed his own footage of the s.w.a.t. team combing his house. during these moments, they didn't knowhere tsarnaev was or if he was carrying explosives on his body. >> knowing they had him surrounded and so close to our neighborhood, it made us think he might have been here at nighttime and they kind of flushed him out into that area. >> vivian stevens also lives very close to the house where tsarnaev was cornered. how do you feel now that it's over? >> it's surreal, i think i'm numb. i do
law enforcement went door to door. after the standoff, we spoke to neighbors. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through. >> they came in, searched the living room area, the dining room. went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen ar area. >> they search cabinets and things like that. >> >> no, no cabinets or...
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there are laws where the law enforcement can't go into campuses and follow these students. if a parent can't check on a student, check their grades or classes or know if they're coming or going, that's a problem. the fbi can't either nor law enforcement. so, you know, the system has to get better but at the same time, citizens have rights. how can you keep a nation and country secure but at the same time afford the rights and freedoms that makes this the best and greatest nation to live in and to reside? >> it's not an easy balance. not an easy balance. thank you very much for the discussion. obviously we've got to figure this out. it's troubling to people because the more we learn about him being in russia and coming back and posting a video about a radicalizer who was there at the same time, it's frustrating. but limitations to every system. we're going to take a break. when we come back, we have brand new information just in about a phone conversation between the suspect's father and their uncle that may be a window into why this happened. it's lots of things. all waking
there are laws where the law enforcement can't go into campuses and follow these students. if a parent can't check on a student, check their grades or classes or know if they're coming or going, that's a problem. the fbi can't either nor law enforcement. so, you know, the system has to get better but at the same time, citizens have rights. how can you keep a nation and country secure but at the same time afford the rights and freedoms that makes this the best and greatest nation to live in and...
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there's political danger, law enforcement now are the heroes. don't want to second guess them too much. >> we don't know what we don't know. >> we will leave that. >>> up next, any other week, this story would have been the lead. >> all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> the president lost a very big fight on gun control. so the question we now have, can he save it and how? >>> and outside of washington, there was a smaller, much smaller political story, but it was pretty interesting. a messy divorce, a charge of trespassing, and a former governor's political fate is on the line. you're in, that's the business we're in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. is as much about getting there... ♪ ...as it is being there. ♪ [ birds chirping ] away is where the days are packed with wonder... ♪ [ wind whistles ] ...and the evenings are filled with familiar comforts. find your a
there's political danger, law enforcement now are the heroes. don't want to second guess them too much. >> we don't know what we don't know. >> we will leave that. >>> up next, any other week, this story would have been the lead. >> all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> the president lost a very big fight on gun control. so the question we now have, can he save it and how? >>> and outside of washington, there was a smaller, much...
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jake tapper joins us and what are law enforcement officials telling you? >> a government official says in the preliminary interviews with sfwl dzhokhar tsavraev, he is providing details, not so much talking, but by nodding and writing things down. he says there were no foreign terrorist groups involved with the attacks. they were radicalized on line. by watching videos online and getting instructions and information online. and in addition according to dzhokhar, the older brother, tamerlan, the driving force behind the attacks this is what dzhokhar is saying to investigators. investigators know they have to check everything out. not taking his word as gospel. they want to make sure that what he's saying is true, but this is what he is saying, according to government officials that we have spoken with, the brothers have seen to have been self-starter, self-radicalized individuals. seem to have been radicalized in the united states, and the motivating thought seems to be jihadist thought, the idea there is political and religious motivation, that islam is un
jake tapper joins us and what are law enforcement officials telling you? >> a government official says in the preliminary interviews with sfwl dzhokhar tsavraev, he is providing details, not so much talking, but by nodding and writing things down. he says there were no foreign terrorist groups involved with the attacks. they were radicalized on line. by watching videos online and getting instructions and information online. and in addition according to dzhokhar, the older brother,...
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law enforcement sources says there are a number of active leads. overnight authorities searched an apartment in ravire, massachusetts. the explosive devices used were packed with nails, zippers, blades. doctors report removing ball bearings from patients. there have been at least ten amputations so far. doctors say they have never seen the scale of an attack like this in normal city hospitals. the doctors says they will find and bring to justice whoever is behind the bombings at the marathon. those bombings, again, killed three people, injured more than 140. investigators, they're combing through the evidence this morning. the fbi and boston police asking anyone who may have seen anything, heard anything suspicious, contact authorities. i'm here with cnn's pamela bradley this morning. >> good morning. people are still on high alert this morning. there is heavy law enforcement presence here in boston's back bay area. it is all hands on deck as they investigate the attack, how they were able to carry it off and why. just before 3:00 p.m., more than f
law enforcement sources says there are a number of active leads. overnight authorities searched an apartment in ravire, massachusetts. the explosive devices used were packed with nails, zippers, blades. doctors report removing ball bearings from patients. there have been at least ten amputations so far. doctors say they have never seen the scale of an attack like this in normal city hospitals. the doctors says they will find and bring to justice whoever is behind the bombings at the marathon....
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it's the former brother-in-law of the suspects, and i spoke with him. he spoke with me from kazakhstan. what can you tell us about mischa, and supposedly his influence over the older brother? >> well, first of all, allow me to express my condolences to all of those who lost their loved ones, when this happened, and yes, i met mischa. and, well, it seemed to me that he, mischa, had influence on tamerlan. >> do you believe he inspired the older brother to become a radical muslim? >> i'm not sure if he inspired, or taught him to be radical islamist, but he surely did have influence and did teach him things to have tamerlan go away from the people, and go more into the religion. and maybe, maybe that's possible that he suggested to him some radical ideas. but i wouldn't say that -- i mean, i didn't witness him making him radical. or, you know, i didn't witness him say anything. i just know what tamerlan told me, that he quit boxing, and music, because mischa was, you know, teaching him that it's not good in islam to do those things. >> what was misha's last
it's the former brother-in-law of the suspects, and i spoke with him. he spoke with me from kazakhstan. what can you tell us about mischa, and supposedly his influence over the older brother? >> well, first of all, allow me to express my condolences to all of those who lost their loved ones, when this happened, and yes, i met mischa. and, well, it seemed to me that he, mischa, had influence on tamerlan. >> do you believe he inspired the older brother to become a radical muslim?...
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there is some form of communication between law enforcement and the suspect. my source did not know whether in fact that communication was in writing. there is a lot of presumption it's in writing. we do have fran townsend reporting that the communication has been in writing. neither of our sources was able to discuss exactly, though, what's being communicated, how far they're getting with him, what they're learning. but i was told unequivocally that they have been questioning him since yesterday. >> this communication going on since yesterday. we do know he suffered some kind of wound to the neck. we understand there are periods of time he was sedated and intubated. so we can infer from that speaking would be remember difficult. but your sources saying there is communication. fran townsend saying she has sources that the communication is by writing. but they would not confirm the nature of any of the communication? >> no, they wouldn't. and i'm not sure how much it is actually. i was trying to find out exactly what questions they were asking. one would presum
there is some form of communication between law enforcement and the suspect. my source did not know whether in fact that communication was in writing. there is a lot of presumption it's in writing. we do have fran townsend reporting that the communication has been in writing. neither of our sources was able to discuss exactly, though, what's being communicated, how far they're getting with him, what they're learning. but i was told unequivocally that they have been questioning him since...
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you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious package, rather, that had been found, was blown up as a precautionary measure. so he said they're working with two bombs. we don't have information at this time any or details about the second bomb that was found, michael. >> can didcandy, this is suzann. did the law enforcement official tell you significance of the information, if it -- the pressure cooker if it might have created more shrapnel or if this was a crude device and how this would have impacted the injuries, kinds of injuries we saw in the blast? >> reporter: because it was made of metal, you're right that could have hidden shrapnel pl
you'll remember that we have been reporting that law enforcement authorities had issued a bulletin to other investigators to be on the lookout for someone who might have been carrying a black backpack in the area of the explosions right before they occurred. so this might go hand in hand with that. we also heard governor deval patrick of massachusetts announce not long ago that there were two bombs and two bombs only. he went on to say that another device that had been found or a suspicious...
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when a prosecutor is gunned down, any law enforcement officer is gunned down, you know, law enforcement authorities make that the highest priority. so, certainly the high bond was expected. but i've got to tell you the facts of this case are unlike anything i've seen. it's almost like a hollywood movie. it's very, very rare that someone murders a prosecutor, because many know that prosecutors are almost like, you know, termites. you kill one, there are so many others prepared to take up the coal, so the fact that eric williams is now accused of these heinous murders, it's just so very shocking, erin. just because it's something that doesn't typically happen. eric williams is a lawyer, was a justice of the peace, which is a judge that handles mostly administrative duties, and, obviously, took his conviction after trial by these prosecutors personally. and it's just something that you rarely see. >> sunny, jake tapper here in boston. just following the prosecutors' case and how police have pursued this, obviously, eric williams and his wife are presumed innocent, but it seems like when th
when a prosecutor is gunned down, any law enforcement officer is gunned down, you know, law enforcement authorities make that the highest priority. so, certainly the high bond was expected. but i've got to tell you the facts of this case are unlike anything i've seen. it's almost like a hollywood movie. it's very, very rare that someone murders a prosecutor, because many know that prosecutors are almost like, you know, termites. you kill one, there are so many others prepared to take up the...
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for the first time in 13 years, i have had real representation from an attorney at law. i'll be honest, i haven't had a lot of faith in attorneys. i've went through 20 or so in the last 13 years. and i will never let you go. that came from the heart. i didn't write that. i want to also thank senator roger wicker for his kind words about me in the press, and for the record, i have always felt that he is a good and honest man. i respect president obama. i love my country. and would never do anything to pose a threat to him or any other u.s. official. this past week has been a nightmare for myself and my family. my mother has suffered. as well as my children. i would like to get back to normal, which for me means being the best father that i can be to my children, supporting my favorite charity save a life foundation and entertaining through my music. thank you. >> paul kevin curtis, released from custody, charges dropped. there's still plenty of stuff we don't know about what happened. dan lothian, our white house correspondent, is standing by. dan, we do know that ricin-l
for the first time in 13 years, i have had real representation from an attorney at law. i'll be honest, i haven't had a lot of faith in attorneys. i've went through 20 or so in the last 13 years. and i will never let you go. that came from the heart. i didn't write that. i want to also thank senator roger wicker for his kind words about me in the press, and for the record, i have always felt that he is a good and honest man. i respect president obama. i love my country. and would never do...
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so, there's a lot for the law enforcement officials to do. and we just have to differentiate between what they believe the suspect is telling them and what they believe they can verify and what might be the truth, anderson. >> also lawmakers want to talk to the fbi about their treatment of the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, about their interviews with him before he went to russia and any follow-up that they did or did not do, correct? >> yeah. and there's a whole list of questions there, of course, policymakers are asking and we're trying to get to the bottom of what really happened during before and after the time when tamerlan tsarnaev went to russia. federal law enforcement official, for example, this morning, telling cnn tamerlan was not on a terror watch list or any no fly list. that was something up for debate for a while. the official said that when the fbi looked at tamerlan, there was no derogatory information found and the u.s. never deemed him a threat. the official said when the russian government asked the fbi to look into him
so, there's a lot for the law enforcement officials to do. and we just have to differentiate between what they believe the suspect is telling them and what they believe they can verify and what might be the truth, anderson. >> also lawmakers want to talk to the fbi about their treatment of the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, about their interviews with him before he went to russia and any follow-up that they did or did not do, correct? >> yeah. and there's a whole list of...
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law feer law enforcement to say, keep an eye on this person, we think he may be up to no good? does that happen a lot, or is it rare? >> i'm not in a position to say how many times any specific government has communicated to the united states government, but it's fair to say that w whenever we get such communications i think we want to take them very seriously. >> in 2011 the fbi was informed by the russian fsb, the successor organization to the kgb, that they were concerned about the older brother. the fbi says they looked into his communications, they interviewed him, they didn't find there to be anything that would pose a threat to public safety, and then the older brother went to russia, we presume, to chechnya, came back. should the fbi re-interviewed him after he came back? >> they took the matter seriously when it first came up, and obviously there was a very serious concern that we can see in retrospect. and i would be particularly concerned about someone who visited an area like chechnya, if that's in fact what happened, especially in the light of the fact that chechny
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that we have laws of restricting the rights of getting guns lawfully. good guys is not the way to go about it. and that's what you see in the pressuring of the politicians who voted no on the bill. >> 45% gun owners. up to 90% saying they would support some kind of background check. a little bit of dichotomy. >> and we do have background checks. >> some democrats voted against it also. a lot going on. let's get to christine romans in new york. >> new developments in the ricin scare in the nation's capitol. paul kevin curtis of mississippi, bliss believe he sent the letters to senator roger wicker. letters were intercepted at a mail processing facility after tests indicated presence of the poison. letters are undergoing additional testing many results could be known later today. >>> more troubles for carnival cruiseline. a power failure on "ecstasy." all hotel systems and propulsion systems were restored. it's making its way back to port canaveral, florida. >>> north korea threatening "sledgehammer blows" to the u.s. and south korea, unless a list of dem
that we have laws of restricting the rights of getting guns lawfully. good guys is not the way to go about it. and that's what you see in the pressuring of the politicians who voted no on the bill. >> 45% gun owners. up to 90% saying they would support some kind of background check. a little bit of dichotomy. >> and we do have background checks. >> some democrats voted against it also. a lot going on. let's get to christine romans in new york. >> new developments in the...
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my sister-in-law. my brother, octavio. a business partner. our moms. my son. my sister irene, a police officer. my brother keyan. my neighbor. our godson. it's time to give gay and lesbian couples the freedom to marry. it's time for marriage. but i wondered what a customer thought? describe the first time you met. you brought the flex in... as soon as i met fiona and i was describing the problem we were having with our rear brakes, she immediately triaged the situation, knew exactly what was wrong with it, the car was diagnosed properly, it was fixed correctly i have confidence knowing that if i take to ford it's going to be done correctly with the right parts and the right people. get a free brake inspection and brake pads installed for just 49.95 after rebates when you use the ford service credit card. did you tell him to say all of that? no, he's right though... >>> welcome back to "early start." 51 minutes past the hour. reese witherspoon acting up, arrested, and apologizing this morning. there's her mug shot on the left. her husband's is on the right. a s
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this is a testament to the strength our relationships with canadian and american law enforcement and to the ability of canadian government agencies to work together in furtherance of canada's counterterrorism strategy. today's charges represent the most recent example of the tremendously successful effort and commitment of our national security teams. and i would like to take this opportunity to thank them for their outstanding dedication. in recent years, our collaborative approach has led to arrests and several convictions including in ottawa, in quebec and the 11 individuals in project osage in toronto. these successful arrests and convictions demonstrate the expertise and the effectiveness of our integrated teams. we could not have successfully completed this investigation without the collaboration of our partners at the local, national and international levels. on behalf of the rcmp, i express our appreciation for their tremendous support. i am pleased that some of these partners have been able to join us today. even with these successes, it is very important that canadians rema
this is a testament to the strength our relationships with canadian and american law enforcement and to the ability of canadian government agencies to work together in furtherance of canada's counterterrorism strategy. today's charges represent the most recent example of the tremendously successful effort and commitment of our national security teams. and i would like to take this opportunity to thank them for their outstanding dedication. in recent years, our collaborative approach has led to...
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for one, the law doesn't even cover him because he's a u.s. citizen. but from a law enforcement national security perspective, what better way to minimize the impact of terrorists than to treat them like criminals. that's what they are. if you make them into sort of a bigger deal than he is or anyone is, it sort of gives them a relevance we actually don't want to. so a lot of people in national security and counterterrorism love this idea. not only because of the legal underpinnings behind it but also because it sort of says to anyone who would harm us, you're just a criminal. >> there has also been a lot of successful prosecutions of terrorist suspects in criminal court. >> you can learn a lot of evidence from this. when i first got into this field it was right after the africa bombings, african embassy bombings in '98, and some of the testimony that came out of that really taught us a lot about bin laden, about his rise within islamic jihadism and you can learn a lot out of it. what we don't know is whether he has anything to teach us. that's the one
for one, the law doesn't even cover him because he's a u.s. citizen. but from a law enforcement national security perspective, what better way to minimize the impact of terrorists than to treat them like criminals. that's what they are. if you make them into sort of a bigger deal than he is or anyone is, it sort of gives them a relevance we actually don't want to. so a lot of people in national security and counterterrorism love this idea. not only because of the legal underpinnings behind it...
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these pleas coming from all the law enforcement agencies here. they keep on asking people, if you've seen anything unusual near you, around you, the last few days, please contact them immediately. susan candiotti, our thanks to you. >> you know, it's getting tricky here. because on one level you have virginia tech, columbine, oklahoma city, all in april. copycats, motivated? they don't know -- certainly not foreign terrorism. then, they start figuring out the bomb. everything shifts. why? 2010, faisal shahzad. you remember the times square bomber. he used it here. why? familiar, recognizable. allows them to trace ingredients and methods. now they're back. now they're accelerating. let's bring in tom fuentes. a cnn analyst, he helps us all the time with this type of stuff. he's also a former assistant director with the fbi. great to have you mr. fuentes. let's bullet point this. people at home, they hear about this, oh, it seems exotic. oh, this is going to be hard. maybe it's a one-off. actually the opposite is true, right? >> good morning, chris
these pleas coming from all the law enforcement agencies here. they keep on asking people, if you've seen anything unusual near you, around you, the last few days, please contact them immediately. susan candiotti, our thanks to you. >> you know, it's getting tricky here. because on one level you have virginia tech, columbine, oklahoma city, all in april. copycats, motivated? they don't know -- certainly not foreign terrorism. then, they start figuring out the bomb. everything shifts. why?...
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. >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official agrees and says tamerlan was not on a terror watch list or any no fly list because the u.s. never deemed him a threat. so there were no alarm bells when tsarnaev came back to the u.s. six months later. >> by the time he returned, all investigations, the matter had been closed. >> reporter: even so, it's not clear if the department of homeland security, which was charged with monitoring travel, even knew that tsarnaev was on the fbi's radar. feds failing to talk to each other was supposed to be a lesson learned from 9/11. >> we're trying to make sure that all of that information that was available was shared. if it wasn't, there may be somebody who dropped the ball. >> reporter: a u.s. official says, even when there's a hit in the system, it doesn't prompt anyone in law enforcement to take action. it's just monitoring for suspicious travel. joe johns, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to joe johns for that report. >>> later today, another memorial here in boston for yet another of the victims in these attacks. at noon vice president joe b
. >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official agrees and says tamerlan was not on a terror watch list or any no fly list because the u.s. never deemed him a threat. so there were no alarm bells when tsarnaev came back to the u.s. six months later. >> by the time he returned, all investigations, the matter had been closed. >> reporter: even so, it's not clear if the department of homeland security, which was charged with monitoring travel, even knew that tsarnaev was on the...
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what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and as they have acted in other terrorist cases by using the normal criminal procedures. >> because lindsey graham and others say, yes, he should be tried as a u.s. citizen, should be tried in a u.s. civilian court, but that can await this process of doing some serious interrogation of him and designating him as an enemy combatant in the meantime. all of this is moot right now, because as you know, yesterday, he was formally given his miranda rights and a judge magistrate at his bed s
what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as...
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and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them. he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >> reporter: nick walsh, cnn. >>> it was russia that asked the fbi to look into tamerlan tsarnaev's activities back in 2011. moscow said the older brother was increasingly turning to radical islam. bill black joins us now live from moscow where it is 9:36 in the morning. phil, the chronology of this may surprise people, because it seems that the return to radical islam, the request from moscow came before he traveled back to his ancestral homeland. is that the word you're hearing from russian officials, that they were worried even before they let him back in the country? >> reporter: it's what the chronology
and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them. he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >>...